Thank you, Colonel. To the Tyler family, Kirk said that he, he believes in nepotism which is, kind of makes a point. This is a great backdrop for, for our town hall meeting. I appreciate you coming out on a national holiday. First and foremost I want to ask all of us to show our appreciation for not just Mr. Tyler and, and the Colonel, a Medal of Honor recipient, wow I mean, pretty phenomenal, but for all the veterans that are here today. I think we need to give them a round of applause and appreciate their service. I appreciate all of you and it’s a delight to be here. I am running for President because I believe contrary to some that we’re on the verge of greatness again. In fact, I think in America today there are two competing sets of pessimism. One on the left that suggests that we need to manage we’re all kind of liabilities. We got problems and that the government will manage our lives and that we just have to get in line and just accept the fact that we can’t grow the economy at the rate anymore that we used to. We just have to accept the fact that more people are gonna live in poverty. Life’s not fair, we have to accept the fact that we have declining income for the middle class. And then on our side we have a, we have a similar kind of pessimism that, that the end is near. And I think for our country to succeed and for our party to win we have to offer a compelling alternative which suggests, gives a vision of how we could improve things. How we can fix our tax code, shift power away from Washington, fix the mind-numbing regulations that make it harder and harder for people to rise up. Recognize that we’re all getting older together and our demography is changing because of that. That’s a blessing. But the simple fact is we have to change the social contract to preserve and protect it for those that have it now but to assure that it exists going forward. All of these things are gonna require leadership, the kind of leadership that I got to show when I was Governor of the State of Florida. I believe we’re on the verge of greatness but it’s time for us to start fixing problems. And that was the message that I tried to give last night in the debate, and that’s the message that I wake up each and every day thinking about. It’s possible, it’s possible that we fix these things. It is not within the, it’s not the most difficult thing our country has gone through. But we’re gonna have to fix the culture in Washington, D.C. I for one believe that we should have a balanced budget amendment to force the conversation of government living within its means. Please, clap. I think, I think we need to make sure that when elected officials finish their service they don’t go out the back door and start lobbying their, their former clients. There should be a six year ban. I think there should be full disclosure of lobbyist work. It’s not that they do bad things, but because people don’t see it, because there’s no transparency they think the worst. And they don’t have confidence that elected officials are serving. They think that they’re the masters, and in many cases sadly that's the case. I think that people when they show up they ought to work. I just I don’t understand why that’s such a complex thing. Working, I did an interview today with a Detroit talk show host and he said why the heck did you not be considered for the NFL job? Everybody thinks that’s the best job in the world. And it was I actually was being considered for it, but it was the, it was the third month I was it was my eighth year on the job but I had nine more months to go. And it didn’t even cross my mind that I would leave early. I put my hand on the Bible when I was Governor of the State of Florida to uphold the law and, and that meant to me that it was from the beginning to the end. I had a countdown clock. Have you ever seen one of those? It starts backwards by seconds literally this thing was going like this the whole every time I walked in the office. It was like oh my God I better get going. You know, so it was the last four years of my time from, from the beginning all the way back to zero at 12:00 on the first Tuesday in January of 2007 it always reminded me that this was about service. That government isn’t our master that it’s our servant. And people in government should serve rather than dictate. And so I did that each and every day and it was the greatest experience of my life. And to remind you you can move the needle if you have a servant’s heart. It’s a sign of strength not weakness to be able to serve people. I just published a booked called, Reply All. And it’s a book about my emails and I describe my service through the emails. People let me have it, some of them weren’t too happy about their governor. But I gave out my email address and I got, probably had half a million emails between receiving and, and giving. Emails like a lady that sent me an email from Delray Beach. She said I got a, I got a raccoon in my attic. What are you gonna do about it? Didn’t know that was the job description of the Governor, so the next morning I called up the city manager of this town in South Florida and I said Ms. Jones whatever her name was just sent me an email, she says she has a raccoon in her attic. What are you gonna do about it? And by noon that raccoon was out. But on a serious note I also learned that, that a lot of, there’s a lot of hardship going on. I’ll never forget an email I got from Tina Callaway, a woman who was upset that the child support arrangements that the courts had made for her to be able to receive support for her child because her former husband had left never the very first month he was supposed to pay he didn’t do it. And I got another one, and another one, and another one and the net result was I actually created inside the Department of Revenue a concierge service if you will. A woman named Karen Kellums whose job it was to fight to make sure that children got the support that they deserved. And then I realized the whole system didn’t work. And the net result was we applied technology, we changed how we went about things, we changed the law where appropriate, and we increased child support payments by 90 percent. That’s what a servant does. The master may just say I'm the big dog in the room just get out of the way. I’ll tell you when you talk. But I think you have to first listen to people and then you learn from their, their challenges and then when you learn from their challenges you apply the things that you know how to do to fix things. And I did that related to education, our child welfare system, across the board Florida was better off. Don’t you want a President with a servant’s heart to fix the veteran’s administration? I mean, think about it. This is an organization of 330,000 employees. It’s a, it’s the largest health-care system in the world. They bonus management. Thousands of people got bonuses for taking people off waiting lists. The assumption was by getting off a waiting list it meant that they got care, that the vets got care. The simple fact was they got off a waiting list and they didn’t get care and veterans died. And millions of dollars went out in the form of bonuses. And up until now best I can tell three people have been fired, three people have been fired. Should I be your President I can promise you that we’ll fix this. This is, this is fixable. You start asking the questions why the heck is this going on. You don’t let up, you fiercely support veterans who are deserving of a far better set of services than they’re getting now. You challenge the orthodoxy inside of organizations that are protecting their own interests. You make sure that you fight as hard as you can and you can change things. I promise you, you can change things. No more building of hospitals in the VA system that started out at $300 million and now is $1.9 billion without the appropriations to finish the building. No more languishing on waiting lists. Veterans are deserving of the same thing that most Americans get, which is the right to choose. If a veteran wants to see his private doctor or her private doctor why shouldn’t they have that right? I’ve talked to veterans all across this country and sometimes it works but a lot of times it doesn’t because it’s so confusing, so convoluted. Only in Washington do they create all these barriers that cost a lot more and make it harder for people to get the care that they’ve earned through service to this country. One of the ways that we can provide support for the veterans by the way is to not degrade the military anymore. We have cut the military through sequester to the point where if it continues in this path we’re gonna have a bigger veterans problem because there’s gonna be a lot of enlisted men and women leaving the military because of our budget cuts. And those that stay are gonna be in harm’s way because we’re not, we’re not funding the equipment and the training and the, and the ability to keep them safe. We need the greatest military fighting force known to man. If you want to keep the peace, if you want to make sure that you don’t go to war then make sure that you have military superiority that is the envy of the world. And today that’s at risk. I pledge to you that I will fix that. And we need, we need a foreign policy under-girded by a strong military that suggests that our friends should know that we have their back. Starting with Israel, but across the world. The United States has pulled back and created doubts. Our friends no longer believe that we’re serious and our enemies no longer fear us. And the net result is that we have an uncertain world. Could you have ever imagined a Caliphate, I didn’t even know what the term meant literally a year ago, a Caliphate the size of Indiana garnering energy each and every day because of our inaction. Recruiting Americans to go fight their fight in the Caliphate that is in Syria and Iraq, but also recruiting Americans to do harm to us here. Thousands and thousands of Internet exchanges trying to recruit people that, that have a delusional view of this great country of ours. If we’re serious about creating growth for people to be lifted out of poverty and for the middle class to get a raise for the first time we also have to recognize that we need a secure world and a safe world. American leadership is not a force for bad things happening. American leadership done the right way creates peace and security. And the next President is gonna have to rebuild the alliances that have been tattered at the seams. Name a country where our relationship is better today than the day that Barack Obama was sworn into office. As usual, Iowa shows once again that they have lots of discerning voters. Cuba and Iran effectively. Name countries where our relationship is worse. We don’t have time to go through the rest of the world. The simple fact is we (inaudible) leadership and I believe I know how to do that as well. If we were focusing on lifting people up my goodness there’s a lot of people that are struggling. And I will just give you a couple of examples of what could happen. I have proposed a tax plan that lowers the corporate rate and eliminates all of the deductions and carve outs and special treatment to simplify the code to go to 20 percent for corporations, to allow full expending for capital equipment. So if you want to build an expansion you would have the ability to invest in capital equipment capital investment and get it, get it fully expensed. There would be an explosion of investment in the kind of equipment that creates high wage jobs for America. If we eliminated the idea of inversions which was talked about last night where we have worldwide taxation, no other country has it. We narrowed it to territorial taxation and allowed the $2 trillion of cash to come back to our country the combination of those two things will create hundreds of thousands of jobs in this country that are higher than the median where we see rising income. It’s possible to do this. There is the ability to forge consensus across party lines for something that benefits everybody. And also if we lower rates for, for working people as well. There’s a, there’s a couple called Reagan, Reagan Love who is a teacher and Jonathan Love who is serving in the National Guard right now deployed in Oklahoma. They told us that if they get their tax cut their combined income totals X amount and under my plan they would receive a $2,300 tax break. The middle class would on average receive about $2,000. That $2,000 doesn’t sound like much for the big thinkers in Washington, D.C. but what would you do with 2,000 bucks a year.
Unidentified Female: Pay bills.
You could do a lot of things. You could pay bills. You could provide for your grandchild’s education. You might want to take a vacation. You would do what you want to do, but it would be your decision. In the case of Jonathan and Reagan Love I use this story because I love the term Reagan Love, I just think it’s just being a big fan of the guy I think it’s a nice name. They would set up a business. There are more businesses closing today than starting up in America. It is a never before fact that that exists. But if we lowered our rates and simplified the code and, and created a simpler tax code where Washington is not the place where you get your special deal, where you don’t have to hire a lobbyist, where you don’t have to, to be able to get the, you know, left-handed tax credit or the right-handed tax deduction that you’re simplifying the code people would set up businesses. We would restore the entrepreneurial spirit of this country. I know we can do this because I did it in Florida where we led the nation in job growth seven out of eight years, where we cut taxes, where we challenged the regulations, where we made sure that we took on the special interests that were holding people back. And we won, 1.3 million jobs were created during those eight years. Income grew at 4.4 percent. The disposable income in Florida went up by $1,300. Compare that to the $2,300 loss during these seven years in the age of Obama. And Hillary Clinton, she gives that an A, she said it openly. President deserves an A for his economic policy. Really? You think about workforce participation rate lower than 1977. Six million more people living in poverty, one in five children is on food stamps in this country today. Businesses are closing at a faster rate than they’re starting. That may be an A for her, that may be the best she can do, she’s grading on the curve if that’s the case. But that’s an F. This country can rise up but we have to apply conservative principles to simplify the code, fix how we regulate, embrace the energy revolution in our midst rather than thinking it’s a horrible thing that, that we’re lowering energy costs for the re-industrialization of the country and allowing people to have lower utility bills and lower gasoline prices. There should be marching bands celebrating this success, but in Washington this is a deep disappointment. High sustained economic growth will require leadership and a totally different approach to make things happen. The final thing I'm gonna say is I hope you want a President that loves this country and means it. That believes that we’re the most extraordinary country on the face of the Earth because we are. On this Veteran’s Day think back on our history. Think of the sacrifice that our families have made. Think about the greatest generation what they did to protect our freedoms and create an era of abundance the likes of which no one could have imagined before. That’s America, that’s America. And this country needs leaders not just as President but across the board that love this country with their heart and soul, that will fight to restore the kinds of things that will allow everybody to believe in the American dream, that will do it just with a spirit and a joy and an energy that will draw people towards this cause. What I know for sure is America is not a get in line kind of country, do what you’re told kind of country. Get in line and just we’ll take care of you kind of country. This country does extraordinary things when we’re free to decide how we want to pursue our own dreams. When we live our lives of purpose and meaning in a way that inspires others in our community to do the same, that inspires others and inspires others we’re a bottom up country. We’re a country that is a little chaotic from time to time. We don’t like getting in line. I want to restore that America to this great country. A country that has a spirit and a dynamic belief that the future even if we haven’t figured it all out is gonna be brighter than what we have today. If you believe like I do that that’s the America that we can recreate then I hope you’ll join my cause. I hope you’ll be involved in the caucuses, I hear it’s really a beautiful time February 1st to go out at night and to be with your friends and neighbors. I’ll be here with you. I hope that you’ll support my candidacy and I promise you I will not let you down. Thank you all very much. I got to get a little further back. All right here comes the fun part. You’re first. You got a question? No, no pressure don’t worry about it if you don’t. Yeah? I'm sorry, sir.
Unidentified Female: It’s okay.
If you got one though you can, you can ask it.
Unidentified Female: Oh. This, this is a question I don’t know how to phrase it. But the country is where it is when you take office we are where we are. We are where we are with Syria, with Iran...
Unidentified Female: With the issues with illegals and the fact that we have all these people in our country that we have to actually make a plan for. So how are you gonna do this all by yourself? Who are you bringing in with you that’s gonna help you get this accomplished?
Well, first of all whatever we have I would view not as a problem but an opportunity. Because if you start with the premise everything is a problem, end is near, it’s kind of hard to imagine how you’re gonna fix it. Or if you start with the premise as Secretary Clinton did in the debate where she was asked who our enemies are, which is kind of a weird question, we had some strange questions in our debate so I have to admit, like how my fantasy football team is doing. But that question you, you know, enemies she said the NRA was an enemy and then she, and then she said well, I guess the Republicans are really my enemy. Half the country is her enemy. How are you gonna solve problems with that kind of mentality? So the answer to your question first and foremost you don’t assume that people that disagree with you have bad motives. They might just be wrong and you have to persuade them, but you, you do it respectfully and you do it with civility. That is not a sign of weakness. Great things happen when you restore trust first and foremost, so the President needs to lead to change the culture in Washington that is focused on solutions rather than pushing people down. I don’t know about you, but I am so sick and tired of hearing about how great our President is in his own words and how stupid the people that disagree with him are. That the people that disagree with him are in cahoots with the Death to America crowd or whatever it is. That kind of culture that is on both sides has to stop. Secondly, I think you appoint men and women that have talent and life experiences that is not all the same. That you have diversity because that’s important. My experience as Governor was we had this really diverse group of people with a set of shared principles. We were all conservative but we had great backgrounds. So men and women all different backgrounds you get a better answer to a challenge, to a solution when you have different views and different perspectives. Third, you stop the notion that you have to centralize power in the White House where political hacks and academics kind of drive the train. Put, put people that actually have subject matter expertise in these positions of responsibility and then tell them what the strategy what the vision is and give them the power to go out and do it and have their back. Don’t always do what sadly in public life is happening more and more which is there’s a problem at the VA it’s somebody else’s fault. The office of personnel management has gets hacked by the Communist Chinese, the dog ate my homework. No one accepts responsibility, Lois Lerner does her the stuff in the IRS we still haven’t had anybody say hey that was wrong. It’s my bad, I’ll fix it. We had problems when I was Governor of Florida the child welfare system a child was lost. It was heartbreaking. My first impulse wasn’t to say oh that’s the, you know, investigative workers problem. My first impulse was when a child is lost it’s my responsibility, I'm Governor. I didn’t personally lose this child, but it’s under my watch. And so we went about fixing things to make sure that that never happened again. So it’s, it’s I think it’s a much broader question than just, you know, what who would be hired. The other thing I would say is, you know, you’re President, you’re in the White House, it’s a pretty good tool if you want to actually bring people together. So I the story I tell all the time is about a Republican Senator that was invited by the White House to have dinner with the, with the President. And so he’s going up the rickety elevator to go up to the residence, the second floor and the eager aide to President Obama says with great excitement, Senator, you’re the first Republican he’s had dinner with in the residence since he’s been President. And that’s the fifth year. Now, think about it, you’re President, first woman President, congratulations. And you’re trying to get something done. You invite an important Senator from the other party to come have dinner with you. You don’t think that you could convince that person join me on this. How could I make it so it comes out as a win for you, how can we forge consensus, I’ll have your back. What can I do to make it easier for you to do what you know in your heart is the right thing to do? You go out in the Truman balcony and you’re looking over the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial and you’re in this incredible place representing this incredible country, you don’t think people of goodwill can find common ground? 240 years this country has been in existence. We’ve had dysfunction, gosh, 10, let’s get back to the 230 where it worked. It wasn’t pretty, our democracy wasn’t designed to be, like, efficient. It wasn’t designed to be orderly. I mean, we had duels in the old days. People did shout ugly things at one another but there was always a belief that you could forge consensus and it requires leadership to do so. So first and foremost a President has to lead to change the culture. Yes, ma'am?
Unidentified Female: I have two questions, I have two questions.
Why don’t you make it a two part one question?
Unidentified Female: The Social Security is always getting dipped into and health-care for the entire country, which I believe everyone should have insurance but it needs...
Unidentified Female: To be gone about in a different way.
Unidentified Female: Look at states where it works and not just force it.
Great questions. Those are two questions. And on Social Security I’ve laid out a plan, by the way if you’re interested in the full details of all these plans Jeb 2016 is the place to go. And we have comprehensive plans that I'm a policy wonk or nerd or whatever you want to call it. I just believe in the power of ideas, and I think you have to be courageous to express your views and defend them even if they might be controversial. And these subjects are kind of controversial. You remember Paul Ryan when he proposed Medicare reform they had the ad where a guy that looked exactly like Paul Ryan wearing a blue suit and a red tie pushed Granny off a cliff? So there’s a lot of, you know, you’re putting yourself out there when you’re advocating Social Security reform. But to your point it’s already bankrupt. It’s, it’s effectively because we’ve the fund is a set of IOUs, we’ve already borrowed the money to spend on everything else. And it will be bankrupt in every way in relatively short order and when that happens there’s gonna be double digit 20 to 25 percent reductions in benefits for everybody. So doing nothing which is the proposal, you know, that the President basically no one has tried to, to change it will create major cutbacks. I have laid out a reform where for every that we raise the retirement age ultimately to 70 and the early retirement age to 65, and that we do it progressively one month, raise it one month for every year, just as Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill did to get to where we are today. That we raise the benefit level for Social Security beneficiaries to 125 percent of the poverty level. Right now the minimum benefit level I think is 75 percent of the poverty level. So we create a safety net, a floor, that is hire for everybody and then we suppress the benefits for those that are wealthy. And we the raising extending the retirement age, changing the calculation on what the beginning benefits are for those not for people that already have it or are just about ready to get it, but for people in the next generation, those four things will make Social Security solvent. Another point there are a lot of people today that are over the age retirement age and are working. I imagine there’s some people in this room. People like to work, it makes keeps them active and a lot of people have to work, they have to work. And so the plan I’ve suggesting says if you’re above, you know, you’re above the retirement age and you’re working you don’t have to pay the employee portion of the payroll tax, which is six percent. So instead of continuing to pay into a trust fund that’s bankrupt you keep it in your own pocket because it’s your retirement. The final thing I would say is that Social Security never was designed as a as the retirement system, it was a supplemental retirement system which means that we need to get back to private savings as part of this as well. I was in New Hampshire last week and this gentleman asked me about Social Security and I asked him, he was he had to be in his mid-80s, maybe 86,87 sweetest guy in the world. And he, he said well, you know, what about Social Security and I asked him, sir, when did you retire. And he goes I don’t remember. And so I said okay, fine. And then about three minutes later I'm talking about another subject and he yells out I remember now, ’62. And then he described something that I think is important. He said, and then I started I was a bag boy at Shaw’s which is the regional, it’s like the Hy-Vee supermarket chain. And they had a, they had a great 401K. I really liked working there. And he worked there for 13 or 14 more years. The point is that we need to provide incentives for private savings as well. If you’ve ever tried as a small business person to set up a 401K you got to hire a lawyer, an accountant you got you read the forms it looks like you’re committing a crime before you even sign the papers. It’s and you can’t pool small businesses can’t pool their 401Ks together. So the cost of setting up these businesses is extraordinary and people just don’t do it. And if you’re a small business who wants to provide assistance but you can’t afford the employer big employer contribution why not be able to provide direct support to people that are working for you so you don’t have to have a 401K but they can give you a savings support that is tax deductible. There’s all sorts of ways that we can promote private savings as well. Healthcare, Obamacare is a job killer, a wage suppresser, it is way too complicated, and gives way too much power to Washington, D.C. Other than that it’s a great thing it just the preexisting condition element I think can be restored in a new, new way. Allowing adult young adults to be on your plans is another part that’s quite popular, but other than that it ought to be repealed and replaced with a consumer directed model, low premium, no mandates, catastrophic coverage. Where the states decide the additions to the plans. My plan would say for Medicaid, for the kid care insurance, and for the Obamacare subsidies they would all be brought back to the states in a defined contribution kind of way, a premium support way, with some increase because of inflation. Not the kind of growth that we’re having now so the federal government would save hundreds of billions of dollars over, over a period of time and allow states not to have all the rules on top of them to innovate, to create low cost alternatives with a focus on catastrophic coverage. Insurance should be you’re insuring for the high impact unforeseen, unlikely event. That’s what insurance is, right? It’s not, it’s going to, to your monthly doctor’s visit or going to the dentist. That’s prepaid, that’s just paying for, for interacting with your health-care professionals. What we should get back to is insurance being insurance, and consumers being more, more engaged. Allowing for health savings accounts to go along with the insurance so that you can build up you make healthy lifestyle decisions, the premium dollars you’re saving go into an account that can be used for the time when you do get sick because ultimately we all will. That system will create many more jobs and create rising income for the middle class, and it should be portable because the new economy we’re living in it may be you’re in the shared economy. I don’t know if anybody here is an Uber driver but a lot of places you would be surprised who is driving Ubers these days and who’s renting out their, you know, their room in B and B. They may have a job, particularly younger people, they could have three jobs totally customized to their life. Our insurance system isn’t designed for them. So moving in a different direction because of the 21st Century needs is part of this. The final thing I would say is technology should be a cost driver downward not upward. Drugs, medical devices across the board this should be in most places without so much government involvement all the innovations lower prices. Think of all the things we have that used to cost 10 X and now cost, you know, one-tenth of that at a better quality. Well, technology harnessed the right way will allow us to live healthier. You can have wireless technology that can tell you when your blood sugar is too high or you can have a means by which when your device shows that whatever the problem is is a at an acute level it sends a, it sends a, you know, a text message to your doctor or to your nurse or to your spouse. All sorts of things can be done now, but the government through FDA and all the other parts of the, the regulatory process make it harder for that to be harnessed in a way that would create dramatic improvement in healthcare outcomes. Yes, sir?
Unidentified Male: Governor Bush, a little more localized question. I'm fifth generation farmer here in Cass County.
Unidentified Male: And I visited with you before about some concerns we’re having regarding the RFS and regarding trade with China.
Unidentified Male: The problem being in 2005 Congress created RFS which was the birth of the ethanol industry, and of course the weak dollar meant very good strong trade with China. Iowa agriculture, and of course you’ve heard this many times Iowa is agriculture and Iowa is the number one corn soybean state, so it’s critically important to counties like Cass...
Unidentified Male: Communities like Atlantic and particular the rural economy that we continue things on a, on a good strong course. The whole industry as Iowa agriculture always has done is responded has responded that last 10 years to that demand, the whole infrastructure is built upon that demand. Whether it be land value, equipment values, land rentals, our ag businesses expanding in towns like, like Atlantic and now we’re worried. In fact, we’re very worried because the RFS is under scrutiny under criticism and due to the strong dollar our trade is diminishing with China. We’re getting hit a double whammy on both, both fronts. And like I say the whole infrastructure has been built into this demand. Now I mention I am fifth generation farmer, my concern I can probably weather a few storms, my son over on the other side of the room is a sixth generation farmer, and I guess my question to you would be what would be your advice...
He’s bigger than you, by the way.
Unidentified Male: He is. I'm gonna ask you to adopt him for about three minutes. And he’s a pretty good kid, he actually shaved this morning after harvest so, so but what, what would be your advice to him looking he’s on the cusp of investing in agriculture.
Unidentified Male: Being engaged he just joined our operation, joined our business. What would be your advice and vision for Iowa agriculture, because I’ll guarantee you that effects almost everyone in this room, whether it be an ag business or whether it be a jewelry, jewelry store downtown...
Unidentified Male: Iowa is agriculture out here in the country.
I appreciate the, the comment and the question. First of all, I hope you’ll support me. That would be my first advice. You’re gonna support a Governor that is depending on prices of, of, of corn and soybean is either number two or number three in terms of farm income in the United States. When your prices are up we’re third, when your prices are down as they are moving down right now we end up being second. That’s how, that’s the scale of Florida agriculture. And I, I dealt with the, the risk-taking elements of agriculture in Florida. The, you know, eight hurricanes, four tropical storms, the greening issue that is wiping out the citrus industry. The big challenges we face and I think I have an appreciation for the business side of this. And the, and the heritage side of it. It’s a way to protect your culture to have strong agriculture and I know this because I saw it firsthand as, as Governor. I'm making my pitch now. Secondly, one of the ways that you can sustain any sector of our economy, but particularly agriculture, is to change the whole regulatory systems that exist. That waters of the United States rule that was a rule in search of a problem frankly. I mean, there is no problem. This is a rule that was decided, it probably has a huge impact on this, on this business. You know, it’s work in progress, but this is a rule that defines the federal government’s involvement in any development by broadly defining what is, what is a federally what is a federal water body, what is a navigable water body, which can mean a culvert. It can mean a drainage ditch potentially, it could mean all sorts of things that never was intended. And those kinds of rules whether it’s the Department of Labor, EPA, the Clean Power Act is gonna have a devastating impact on, on anybody that needs to produce power that, we need to, we need to repeal or revamp every one of those rules and wherever possible shift those rule-making powers back to communities that understand in this case agriculture, or in other places may understand manufacturing. The simple fact is Washington is not designed to do this, and so elect someone that has the skills to dramatically change how we, how we create rules around society. And I if you want to go to Jeb 2016 if you really want to have a total nerd out the proposals we have on regulation are the most comprehensive, complex but important rules that I think would, would just unleash the animal spirits of our country. Third, you need a President that fights for free trade. Fair trade for sure, but this idea growing sentiment on the debate stage that somehow we’re gonna like, create no only just walls, you know, physical walls but protectionist walls. You know what the first group is that gets hurt on that? It’s agriculture, because that’s the easiest thing to counter. A month ago when I was here Governor Branstad told me that the Chinese in a very this is when President Shi had come to the country and a very incredible way announced that they were buying the equivalent of a years’ production of soybeans in Iowa. Now, it won’t be all from, you know, from Iowa but the simple fact is that kind of volume at a 15 percent premium over the, over the price of a month ago is pretty extraordinary. That market in spite of put aside the currency flows that go up and down that market as people begin to grow into the middle class and want to consume more protein is gonna be a market that will create enormous opportunities, more than, more than any other factor. Not just China, but India and other countries as well. And so you need a President that tears down the barriers and fights for America’s interests for sure and makes sure the trade agreements are verifiable and are enforced. But doesn’t do it in a way that jeopardizes huge spots of our own economy. And as it relates to the RFS here’s my position. The very point, the very first part of what you said and we’ve had this conversation before, is the part that I'm sympathetic with. Which is rules were established in 2005 and ’06 that created billions of dollars of investing and it takes time for that investment to be fully amortized for sure, that’s just how the world works. And along the way the innovators have lowered costs which is a good news story. Ultimately, you may have read the news. I mean, I in Florida we have a sugar industry it’s huge, I mean, it’s we produce more sugar than any other state. I’ve never believed in the sugar subsidy. I just don’t believe it’s appropriate to pick winners and losers and create I mean, we need to have food security for sure. There’s got to be a minimum commitment to make sure that we have food security. There’s a role for government in this but picking winners and losers in energy or in agriculture by protecting one group because they have more clout than another group is not the way America works. And so ultimately I think these subsidies whether it’s oil and gas, or the RFS these are, these are version of protections that they ought to be phased out, with the recognition that you’ve made big time commitments as it relates to billions of dollars being that have been invested in these ethanol plants. So there has to be some sensitivity to that and market access. And my belief is that just as yields have gone up in agriculture here in this state that are the envy of the world you can get to the point where ethanol can be competitive with any source of energy as long as you have market access. That’s out into the future, but I do believe that these things have to be phased out over a period of time. Yes?
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible).
We got a couple more. Got a mic coming.
Unidentified Female: What are you gonna to stop, stop something happening like in the Denver Hospital mess?
Well, the Congress came up with a pretty good idea on that and it’s just being implemented. The Denver mess is a complete, you know, it’s just think this is America how could, how could this happen. This is, this is what you expect in Argentina maybe. You know, not, not our country. So the solution, the best solution that I’ve seen is let the Army Corps of Engineers do the construction. Get the, get the Veteran’s Administration out of the business, they clearly don’t know what they’re doing. And if you look at procurement reform, information technology reform, and this reform of having the Army Corps which has subject matter expertise on how to build buildings, and you combine that with giving veterans choices by giving them a card with broadened powers to be able to see their own doctors, and then getting the Veterans’ Administration to focus on creating centers of excellence. Because there are things that I think given the, the challenges that exist each generation has a different challenge. These are specialties. The big challenge today I think there are two big challenges that are different than the past. One, there are a lot of women veterans, and so having focused women services in the Veterans’ Administration would make sense. And secondly you have Post-Traumatic Stress which is a huge driver of a lot of, a lot of challenges for vets. And then the long-term disabled, all of these happened because the war we’re fighting is different and the challenges are different. Let them be the, you know, let them have centers of excellence that are the envy of the world and allow veterans then to have more choices. You could lower costs and I think greatly improve outcomes if you did that. One more.
Unidentified Female: Yes, on the subject of immigration.
Unidentified Female: Okay. You advocated along with other candidates that if people want to stay in this country they have to learn English and pay a fine. Okay.
A lot more than that, but...
Unidentified Female: Okay. But...
You want me to give you the whole what they should do?
Unidentified Female: No. What I want to know is that’s, that’s a general statement. Nobody goes into details. What is your idea of paying a fine? How much money we talking about, who is gonna pay for all these people to learn English...
Unidentified Female: At they okay. And the proficiency level who is gonna determine that? And what happens if they if there’s a time limit on achieving these and what happens if they don’t do it, then what?
Great question. If you’re, I actually wrote a book about this so I'm gonna hawk my book right now. It’s called Immigration Wars, you could probably get it for a buck 99 on Amazon, so it’s a not, it’s not a best seller let’s just leave it at that. But in that we detail a full plan and pay a fine. The fine I think needs to be something that can be collected, so it’s in the hundreds not thousands of dollars. Learning English, there are most immigrants want to learn English because they want to advance themselves and they would pay for it. Not commit crimes, that would be a deportable offense. That’s pretty simple to enforce I think. Work and pay taxes. No federal government assistance, none. You add all that up and you do it over an extended period of time, so it’s a provisional work permit not a permanent green card. You earn legal status, and that legal status allows you to stay in the country but not gain citizenship. That to me is the practical pragmatic, conservative approach to deal with the problem that if we, if we do nothing we just perpetuate it. Which is this is, this is the frustration I feel which is I don’t think Barack Obama wants to solve this problem. I think there’s enough history now to suggest that. He could have done it in his first and second year. He had 60 Democratic Senators and a, and Nancy Pelosi was Speaker. And he promised it. He made a full blown promise and he didn’t deliver because he wants to use this as a wedged political issue. And our guys are reluctant to engage him because he can’t be trusted on border security and this executive order that he’s done that now the courts have held up because I think it’s unconstitutional. I actually this is something I know a little bit about. And the law allows the President to have discretion to allow people to stay. But it didn’t allow a President to say five million people can stay through that discretion. There’s nothing, it doesn’t come close to that. And so the courts are gonna overrule him on this, but we need to get to the point where we solve this problem and move on to make immigration a positive. Right now it’s not. It’s a drain on our resources rather than something that if we could control who comes in we could create an economic strategy that would help all of us. So the, the other ideas of doing nothing I don’t think that works, of rounding people up it’s just not practical. You’re gonna violate civil liberties of people that you think you should round them up but maybe they aren’t rounded up. You got to have due process. It would overwhelm the courts, it creates chaos, it just it sounds good on one level and I know it appeals to people’s abject anger that the rule of law is not being applied. I get that part, but it I'm in the problem solving business. That’s the business I'm aspiring to be in. I'm not in talking how bad things are business, I'm not in in everything is great business, I'm saying let’s fix these big complex things and then get on with life. Right now we’re stuck. We’re totally stuck as a nation and Washington is the problem, and I think I can fix it. Thanks for the question, and thank you all for being here.
Unidentified Female: Would you, please?
Unidentified Female: Thank you, sir.
Unidentified Female: Jeb, this is for you and your wife. And you know what that is.
Oh, yes I do.
Unidentified Female: And they’re blessed, and they’re blessed.
Thank you. Oh, thank you.
Unidentified Female: Great (inaudible). God bless you.
Unidentified Female: Thank you for appointing my cousin to be a judge for you.
Who what was his name?
Unidentified Female: Torphy Vince Torphy.
Oh, yeah, Big Vince.
Unidentified Female: Do you know him?
I do know him.
Unidentified Female: Yeah.
He was a police officer, right? And then he became a lawyer?
Unidentified Female: Yeah.
And then he became a county judge and then I appointed him to the circuit. He may be appellate now or is he circuit?
Unidentified Female: Appellate I think.
Yeah he’s like up...
Unidentified Female: He might be circuit but...
Mike Campbell: I'm gonna shake your hand. I'm Mike Campbell.
Unidentified Female: I just (inaudible).
Mike Campbell: I served as one of your chairman in (inaudible).
Thank you, thank you, sir.
Mike Campbell: And we enjoy The Villages January, February, and March, but I'm gonna fly back for the caucuses so we can be here.
Where do you which the new part? Sumter?
Mike Campbell: We’re, well, yeah we’re down toward the Sumter part.
What an amazing place.
Mike Campbell: Isn’t that something?
You got a lot of friends that live there, too?
Mike Campbell: Yeah, I’ve got some friends that live in Florida.
But at The Villages?
Mike Campbell: Yeah, at The Villages.
Have you met new people just along the way?
Mike Campbell: Yes, quite a few, yeah. And of course they’re still building the town.
I was a, I was a close friend and great admirer of Gary Morse and, and his son I don’t know his son as well. But Gary passed away, but what a genius kind of.
Mike Campbell: It’s something else. There’s nothing like it anywhere.
No. I think in a normal year it’s the largest community more, more homes are built there than any community in the United States.
Mike Campbell: Well, we’re gonna...
Mike Campbell: Make some calls and see if we can’t...
Mike Campbell: Good performance in Iowa.
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah don’t forget, don’t get down there and enjoy it so much you think maybe...
Mike Campbell: I’ve got my tickets to come back so we’ll be back the week...
Mike Campbell: Week before the 1st. We’ll be working for you.
Thank you so much.
Unidentified Female: Thank you very much, nice to see you.
Nice to see you.
Unidentified Female: We got to shake your brother’s hand when he was President and visited the State Affair Board. My husband is on the State Affair Board so that was really exciting and I'm really excited to see you, too.
He loved, he loved Iowa.
Unidentified Female: Yes.
Unidentified Female: I just want to encourage you not to give up and keep...
Oh, yeah don’t worry I'm fighting.
Unidentified Male: Hang in there, Jeb.
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible).
Unidentified Male: Yeah, I just had a quick question for you. We actually drove here from University of Nebraska.
Unidentified Male: To ask I wanted to ask you just quick about where you stand on the Keystone Pipeline?
I'm for it, I’ve been for it. Thank you. Here’s the deal, if it doesn’t come by the most efficient way to come down it will come by rail, which is more dangerous. And if it doesn’t come to the United States it’s gonna go to China. So what’s the point? I mean, we’re like and if we integrate North American energy into the refining capacity of our own country we lower gasoline prices for Americans. So the carbon footprint issue that, you know, that the President is talking about it will be heavier because this oil will be used in a heavier carbon economy than the United States.
Unidentified Male: Yes, sir.
And we’ll have higher prices rather than lower prices, and we’ll miss the job opportunities and the investment and the spin-off, not just the construction but the actual potential of, you know, in the energy economy creating jobs. So we have 40 percent of all the economic growth has been in the energy sector since Barack Obama has gotten into office. 40 percent of all the growth. The growth has been so tepid, you know, but that’s a, that we should be celebrating that rather than kind of suppressing it. What’s your view?
Unidentified Male: Oh, I'm, I'm very much for it. I think it would bring lots of jobs to both Nebraska and (inaudible).
I would. And, you know, ultimately if we have an energy economy we’re also gonna have manufacturing and processing and all this stuff that’s heavy equipment. You know, truck drivers and welders and electricians and manufacturers. It’s a, it’s just such a value added sector of our economy.
Unidentified Male: Thank you very much.
Unidentified Male: Thank you so much.
How long did it take you to get here?
Unidentified Male: About two hours.
Oh, that’s not as bad as I thought it was.
Unidentified Male: No, it’s not.
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible).
Unidentified Male: Governor.
Unidentified Male: I am a veteran, I did grow up in Florida.
Where did you grow up?
Unidentified Male: Jacksonville.
That’s a big...
Unidentified Male: I still have my house.
Unidentified Male: I still have a house there.
Oh, yeah? Where?
Unidentified Male: About five miles from the airport.
In north, north...
Unidentified Male: North Florida, North Jacksonville.
Unidentified Male: I had two hard questions for you.
Unidentified Male: The first one was you lived in Tallahassee, were you Seminole or Gator?
Actually, I'm a Canes fan.
Unidentified Male: I'm a Seminole.
I love, I loved, I loved all of my teams that were national champions.
Unidentified Male: Well, that was a safe bet.
Had a pretty run, but I was a Canes fan. I remember I was, I was watching FSU play Miami they were like one and two, occasionally that happened. Not anymore, but back then they were and the game was on at Tallahassee and I went on, I went in the booth with Brent Musburger at halftime and they and he said of course you have to be neutral in the game, right, you’re Governor. And I said no, I'm for the Canes. And the minute I said it you could hear like the stadium erupt because everybody listens to the or watch it on their little start all of a sudden it’s just like boo, like coming up. So man, I just stepped in it.
Unidentified Male: There’s a little energy there, you know.
Yeah. They, they don’t like each other either.
Unidentified Male: Well, I moved up here to run an ethanol plant.
So what about you? What...
Unidentified Male: I'm Seminole.
You’re Seminole? Not the Gators?
Unidentified Male: I went to Florida, no I went to Florida State twice.
There’s a null...
Unidentified Male: No, I went twice.
We got more nulls on our team than, than Hurricanes I promise.
Unidentified Male: I like that. That’s (inaudible) you got to put your real team together.
It’s diversity. You’re running an ethanol plant?
Unidentified Male: I am.
Unidentified Male: Coon Rapids it’s a POET Plant. I gave your staffer my card.
Unidentified Male: The run thing I, I heard you say was incentives. Corn ethanol hasn’t gotten incentives since 2011.
I know, they lost the, the...
Unidentified Male: Well, we gave back the blenders.
The credit, right?
Unidentified Male: Right. My, my bigger concern is what’s the national energy policy look like? Because to me I'm retired and (inaudible).
Unidentified Male: So I have an interest in what to me we ought to be focused on national security.
Unidentified Male: And how do we build a national energy policy to do that?
Yeah. I think it, I think a policy needs to be forward leaning that innovation is open, that you’re always, you’re not stopping. You’re constantly, so the role of the government is to do RND for disruptive innovation. Secondly, you need reliability which means we need to protect the power grid. I'm very worried about cybersecurity threats. We need diversity of feed stock because the minute you over rely on one you create markets change and you create, I mean, in Florida and most states there’s a real command a real premium for both reliability and diversity. So you can’t over-depend on natural gas, or over-depend on coal, there has to be, there has to be a diverse supply. And it ought to be abundant, I mean, we should, we should be making it as easy as possible to produce at the lowest possible cost energy because that’s how you reindustrialize the country and give people a break.
Unidentified Male: I want to touch on something else. I was at the Army Board College in June, I was one of the civilians. We spent a day talking cybersecurity.
Did you get scared?
Unidentified Male: Two days later China broke into our server.
Unidentified Male: Yes.
Yeah, I mean, the Inspector General of the OPM since has a scathing report and it turns out the Chinese had already hacked in they just didn’t know it for there was a, you know, the announcement took place. But normally, you know, as you know...
Unidentified Male: Right.
There’s a you want you don’t want to let the world know you’ve, you’ve penetrated because you’ve got to mine all the data. So I think there was a lag time but it’s, it’s 23 million unique files are in the hands of the Chinese. All the security clearances, there’s an assumption that they have it. I’ve been told that a couple people are working in our campaign told me that this is a 100 page, do you have a security clearance?
Unidentified Male: I did, I was STI.
100 page form that gives the, you know, the agencies to get clearance more information about you than you don’t want, you don’t want the Chinese to know who your, you know, three favorite friends are outside the United States. Or since you were 18 all the places that you lived, or I mean, just it’s a treasure trove of big data that can be mined. And we should be doing that to them to be honest with you.
Unidentified Male: Surely.
We need to be aggressive to create mutual assured destruction in the cyberspace where there’s, you know, where there’s clear a clarity about our possibilities of doing harm to them to stop them from doing harm to us.
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
Does that make sense?
Unidentified Male: It does. I worked in the vault for Sencom so my all the agencies had a file about this thick on me.
Well, you had...
Unidentified Male: So the last thing I want is China to have my information.
Well, you’ve got some guy named Lee that’s got it in right outside of Shanghai apparently and didn’t really get that much news here.
Unidentified Male: No.
You think about it, that’s a violation of our sovereignty, the President and President Shi signed an agreement that was, you know, that didn’t I mean, it doesn’t I don’t think it’s serious, I just don’t think it’s a serious agreement. We got to show our resolve on these things. And then you got to have greater cooperation between the private sector and the government. And there’s privacy issues there, liability issues, the private sector doesn’t want to cooperate anymore after all of these allegations of NSA snooping and all this which wasn’t true. So I think this is this and the Islamic terrorist threat are the two new 21st Century threats that we got to get serious about.
Unidentified Male: I, I agree. I think now is the time.
Great seeing you.
Unidentified Male: Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Unidentified Male: Pleasure.
Did they let you in to this house, this place given the place that they’re Cyclone fans and you’re wearing that Iowa hat?
Unidentified Male: Well, that’s their problem. Fairly or unfairly you’re considered the establishment candidate.
Unidentified Male: And going by the success of Trump and Carson on the Republican side, Sanders on the Democratic side how do you fight that perception?
Well, I got to talk about the future, I got to have ideas that will give people a sense that I'm serious about transformation, about disruption, about fixing the mess in Washington. And I got to tell my story. Look, my story is not that complicated. 32 years in the private sector, eight years as Governor.
Unidentified Male: See, the private sector part is not out there.
Unidentified Male: And...
I’ve, I got to work in government eight years, nine years I was Secretary of Commerce. The rest of it was being in business, being involved in civic affairs, education reform foundation that’s, that’s the largest of its kind. I have a record of accomplishment I got to go share because you’re right people don’t...
Unidentified Male: No, they don’t know.
I wouldn’t, you know, if I landed at Dulles Airport I wouldn’t know how to get to downtown Washington really beyond well, I would know how to do it I would take Uber, but...
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
I couldn’t, I don’t know my way around Washington because I haven’t I’ve never lived there. I was older, my dad was President I was 40.
Unidentified Male: Right.
So I was, you know, I’ve lived overseas, I’ve worked overseas, I’ve built a business from three people with my partner and it grew to be the largest, you know, 260 employee business. The Jeb story needs to be told.
Unidentified Male: Yeah, and I mean, seriously that’s probably I mean, going by the ads that I'm seeing here in Iowa it’s establishment party officials that are touting your success. I think you need to...
Yeah. That’s good advice. I didn’t know we had an ad where people were...
Unidentified Male: Yeah. And it’s...
These are people that worked with me down in...
Unidentified Male: Worked with you down...
Unidentified Male: Yeah. I mean...
Yeah. Some of them didn’t like me they’re right, they’re doing this because they said hey he didn’t, he never agreed with me.
Unidentified Male: Right, right.
The guy didn’t...
Unidentified Male: But it’s still political, it’s still political and...
Yeah that’s true.
Unidentified Male: And it seems to be a (inaudible) against, you know, throw all the problems out.
Unidentified Male: Is what it seems to be.
Yeah. At some point we’re gonna maybe get to the point where we actually have a conversation about who can win, who can beat Clinton.
Unidentified Male: And, yeah, you know.
Unidentified Male: Governor, I wanted to shake your hand.
Yeah. I'm hanging.
Unidentified Male: Yeah. You stay in there.
Hanging and move forward. Good comment, I appreciate it.
Unidentified Male: One photo right behind you.
Unidentified Female: I know it’s me again.
Unidentified Female: Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you.
Unidentified Female: Thank you.
Unidentified Male: We’ll go right here.
Unidentified Male: Hey, welcome to Atlantic.
Good to be here.
Jason McGinkel: Jason McGinkel.
How are you doing?
Jason McGinkel: I saw you at (inaudible).
That was fantastic.
Jason McGinkel: You’re still doing a good job. Oh, that was a great party. A lot drier that day.
Yeah it’s looking ugly out there. Am I hearing the rain coming down? Is that what that was?
Jason McGinkel: Steve Liben here.
Steve Liben: Steve Liben, nice to meet you.
Steve, how you doing?
Steve Liben: Nice to meet you.
Rand Hart: Rand Hart.
Rand Hart: Governor, thank you for being here. We appreciate it.
Colonel Leo Thorsness: We were just bragging about how much you know, and they said this.
Jason McGinkel: Well, I get that, too.
You know, you ever notice people that have been so extraordinarily heroic never talk about it. He never talks about it.
Colonel Leo Thorsness: It’s my job, we all got different jobs.
It’s just I don’t know if you know this but my dad never talked to us about his World War II experience, never. I just like couldn’t get it out of him. And then finally he, he opened up and it was like I didn’t know growing up that he could have been cannibalized. His Garrison Commander, the Deputy Garrison Commander had they picked him up and made him a prisoner of war that guy was executed for war crimes for cannibalism.
Jason McGinkel: Your dad never said anything, did he?
Steve Liben: No.
Colonel Leo Thorsness: Did he talk to you about, did he talk to you about being picked up by that sub and if it’s close or was he...
He has now and it was, it was well, it was three miles apart. So yeah. No he finally...
Colonel Leo Thorsness: We’ve all seen that picture.
That’s amazing to me that he’s sitting there.
Jason McGinkel: There is a picture.
There is a picture. He lost two of his crew members, that’s, that’s the reason why he didn’t talk about it I think. But it’s a...
Jason McGinkel: That’s the same household I grew up in and Steve grew up in.
Leo would talk about it.
Steve Liben: Right. Same thing.
You got, you got stories.
Colonel Leo Thorsness: We’ve all got stories.
Yeah, but your stories are compelling.
Colonel Leo Thorsness: We all, we all done our job.
Jason McGinkel: A little different than...
Yeah some, some stories are different. Some stories are worth sharing because I don’t, I just don’t know if we’re the valor and courage, modesty is a, is a virtue. It’s a beautiful one, but...
Colonel Leo Thorsness: We’ll talk about your non-Presidential year, all right?
Jason McGinkel: Thank you for coming.
Thank you. How are you, sir? Thank you for being here. What an honor. Thank you for your service. Where did you serve?
Unidentified Male: I was in the Pacific (inaudible).
Unidentified Male: Navy.
Navy? Like my dad.
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
How old are you?
Unidentified Male: Just about as close to 96 as I am 95.
Unidentified Male: I got about three-and-a-half three, like month I have three years (inaudible).
Wow. What an honor to have you here.
Unidentified Male: But I went from (inaudible) in onto Maryland and I left Maryland (inaudible).
Oh, my gosh. So you were on leave when Pearl Harbor happened?
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible) the States shipped to the States (inaudible).
Unidentified Male: And then I didn’t, didn’t get a leave (inaudible).
So you survived it, you survived the attack?
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
Unidentified Male: Shot down one of my...
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible) any time I want to I can see (inaudible).
Wow. You saw them laughing as they were doing it?
Unidentified Male: Yeah. Just laughed at me I see them anytime (inaudible).
They were fierce fighters, weren’t they?
Unidentified Male: Yes they were.
But not as fierce as ours.
Unidentified Male: No.
Well, such an honor to have you here.
Unidentified Male: I'm sure glad Germany knocked that bomb off.
Saved a lot of lives.
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
It really did.
Unidentified Male: I had a (inaudible).
Unidentified Male: College.
Unidentified Male: Anyway, (inaudible) down there in (inaudible) Pearl Harbor survivor (inaudible) World War II veterans (inaudible).
Oh my gosh.
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible) in Iowa.
Unidentified Male: (Inaudible) Hiroshima talking to us (inaudible) terrible feeling. I can see it was working on the kids.
Unidentified Male: So I said to him (inaudible) most of September this was in well, (inaudible) September we were supposed to I was on LCS then. We were supposed to go in (inaudible). Of course the LCS were gonna handle the LCI (inaudible).
It was a brutal war.
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
I appreciate your service. You ought to go tell those stories to high school kids.
Unidentified Male: I did for 32 years
You stop doing it?
Unidentified Male: I had for 32 years.
I'm glad you did it.
Unidentified Male: Yeah.
Well, thank you.
Unidentified Male: Until then my kids didn’t even know I had been.
I know that’s a, I was, we were just talking about it that my dad didn’t tell his stories of World War II either until he got older.
Unidentified Male: No. I (inaudible) shot down too in this torpedo in that same area.
Yeah. Well, thank you. You got someone taking care of you?
Unidentified Male: Well...
You don’t drive, do you?
Unidentified Male: Yes, sir. Yes.
Unidentified Male: Yes, sir. He’s fine.
I can see that.
Unidentified Male: You want to get back.
How is everybody?
Unidentified Male: Good.
Unidentified Female: Governor, do you view Rubio’s backing away of comprehensive immigration reform as a liability
I don’t, I don’t know what his views are. My views are that we need to fix our immigration system by securing the border, narrowing the number of people that come by family expanding the people that come based on economic need for our country. Dealing with the extended stay Visa challenge. All of these things need to be done in a comprehensive way, and I think I have the skills to do it. I mean, this is not there are more complicated things than this. This President has let us down by not being serious about border enforcement and not engaging with Republicans to forge consensus. He uses this as a wedge issue and we don’t win politically with this, but we can win policy wise.
Unidentified Male: Governor, what did you make of Donald Trump yesterday saying he would form a deportation task or force to get people...
I didn’t see that. I know it’s, I’ve heard his views that he believes you can roundup half a million people a month. Just assume for a moment that, that there would be due process. I haven’t Mr. Trump’s views on that, but I assume in our country that that actually people would consider that to be worthy of consideration. A half a million people basically I think would double the number of people processed through our judicial system. It’s not possible. It’s just not possible. I think there’s a better approach, a practical approach, a conservative approach, that solves this and does it in a way that doesn’t, doesn’t cost an arm and a leg and respects American values.
Unidentified Female: In regards to you debate performance, you’ve managed your campaign has managed to capture some donors that have eluded you, a lot of backers have said that it was your best night, best debate night yet. Do you feel as though the tides are turning if in no other regard but for morale?
Look, I, I'm running hard and I'm running to win and I think I will win. I honestly believe it. It’s a long haul process. I liked the, the questions that were asked, and the ability to take a little time to kind of give people a sense of what, what one’s views are. I like the fact that I was given the, the chance to compare our views, which are generally there’s differences inside of our party, but they’re, they’re small compared to the differences we have with Hillary Clinton. To point out the threat of Hillary Clinton’s Presidency and how I have the skills I think and the life experience to be able to take her on. You know, are we gonna, are we gonna nominate someone who has a proven conservative record, 32 years in business, eight years as Governor against someone who has been experience in government for sure, but not a proven record. Literally three, three sponsored bills that became law for eight long years, a highway, a monument and I what was it a post office. And a failed foreign policy when she was Secretary of State. I think you beat that with someone that has a track record. So my story isn’t about the rest of the Republican feel, it’s about me and my leadership skills and the fact that I can win.
Unidentified Female: Do you feel like you’re...
Unidentified Male: You touched on foreign policy there, you were there last night there are few and few others were sort of the hawks of the traditional Republican military national security guys.
Unidentified Male: You’ve got Senator Paul, Donald Trump though who are a little more dovish or isolationist depending on how it’s classified. How does the party sort this out...
We have debates.
Unidentified Male: Before the general election?
That’s a good, I mean, I thought that was a really important part of the debate and there are differences. And I respect, you know, the consistency of Rand Paul’s views. I respect that. I just think that the notion that somehow you’re not a conservative if you, you know, unless you want to gut the military. Because effectively that’s what we’ve been doing. It’s just not, I don’t think that’s the right, right view. The right view to keep the peace is maybe, maybe there’s a third way, maybe there’s, you know, we don’t have to provoke war at every, every step along the way. That we clearly establish what the national security interests are, we’re transparent about it, we build the military force up so it’s second to none, and we deter (inaudible) to war rather than feel compelled to engage in every one. I just think the Syria issue is one given the destabilizing impact of Islamic terrorism and, and now with this new feature of Iranian, even more than the Russian involvement in Syria is the Iranian influence that is deeply troubling to me. That this creates dramatic instability in the region, not just the tragedy unfolding in Syria. And the United States needs to lead in this regard.
Unidentified Male: If you keep having this argument though between the two sides or the...
Unidentified Male: Sort of different, different views does that make it hard to prosecute the Obama Clinton foreign policy.
I don’t think so because the, depending I want my view to win the debate so that we can, we can take it to the American people. I think the failures of the Obama Clinton foreign policy is so apparent the chaos that has erupted by the voids we’ve created is so clear for Americans. And the, the data I’ve seen it’s compelling that people think the Iranian deal was a bad deal. They see the tragedy unfold in Syria. It’s not that they want to have as I said last night the United States be the world’s policemen, but they do sense that we’ve lost our way in terms of our leadership. So...
Unidentified Male: Can...
Yeah, go ahead.
Unidentified Male: Can Senator Rubio, we’re focusing on looking at who can beat Hillary Clinton, can Senator Rubio beat Secretary Clinton?
I'm a better bet.
Unidentified Male: Why?
Because I got a proven record, and I campaign in a way that is, that’s based on that record and based on the ideas that I have that are about the future. And I’ve been vetted, I’ve been tested, I'm an open book. You compare releasing 34 years of tax returns and all the emails we released to Hillary Clinton where you got to get an FBI subpoena to be able to get her information. And it’s always just this lack of trust. I think you need someone that has a proven record. I'm not being critical of anybody with that statement just for the record let’s be clear. Don’t, don’t read into this. I'm tooting my own...
Unidentified Male: Except Hillary.
Except her, good point. Yeah. I’ll give myself a 15 yard penalty for that.
Unidentified Female: Do you agree to follow up on that with your Super PAC what they were saying that the area where they seem to think he’s most vulnerable in a general against Hillary is with women’s issues?
You mean abortion?
Unidentified Female: Yeah.
Look, I don’t think anybody should be critical of someone who is pro-life because I'm the most pro-life candidate on that stage.
Unidentified Male: But he...
I'm the most pro-life candidate on that stage.
Unidentified Male: He...
By doing, not talking this is the difference again. So name someone who got rid of partial birth abortion. Hillary Clinton supports partial birth abortion. It’s the most horrific procedure that I can’t even describe it to you. We got rid of it. We got rid of parental consent, and then we got and then that was ruled unconstitutional and we, we got parental notification. We regulated abortion clinics. We were the first state to do the choose life license plates. We dramatically expanded adoptions. We’re the only state that had state funding for crisis pregnancy centers. I'm the guy. So I'm not gonna be critical of someone who has a pro-life view. I think, I think life is a gift from God and it ought to be protected from beginning to end.
Unidentified Male: But you’re okay with exceptions?
Unidentified Female: Guys, we really have to go.
Unidentified Male: Right? He’s not. Can a Republican who’s not for exceptions win in a general election if they’re running against a woman?
I'm gonna, I'm gonna win the nomination and my views will be the one that will prevail.
Unidentified Female: Okay guys, thank you.
Unidentified Male: Would you disavow right to rise if they ran ads against Rubio and the abortion record?
I don’t think anybody should attack someone who is pro-life.
Unidentified Female: Thanks guys.
Unidentified Female: Do you think you’re becoming a better debater or was it just the format that you found helpful?
I don’t know.
Unidentified Female: Well...
You know, I don’t know I'm gonna do the composite of the punditry class and find out how I'm doing.
Unidentified Female: Well, how much did your debate coach help or your image maker?
I don’t know. He’s certainly not an image maker. You’re looking at it, ma'am.
Unidentified Female: So what did...
Unidentified Female: Okay guys, (Inaudible).
Unidentified Female: What did he help with?
He just, he just brought some logic to being able to say what you think. Just don’t, don’t get tripped up with the questions.
Unidentified Male: Do you reluctantly realize now that maybe it helped? Because you’ve been averse to that kind of stuff before, right? That kind of advice?
No I'm not averse to advice. I’ve been, I’ve had 62 years of life that’s been jammed into my DNA that you’re someone asks you a question you’re supposed to answer it. It’s like, I mean, in my time as Governor people we had a lively conversation with people in the press and I didn’t do it little, you know, kabuki dance around it. I took them on. Even our friends from other, you know, from the other teams. They come I don’t care. Bring it on, baby, I mean, that’s the way I’ve been trained to do it and so now I'm learning the new art of acknowledging the question, being respectful of the questioner of course, and then answering what’s on my mind.
Unidentified Male: And that’s a change from ’98 and 2002?
That’s a change, that’s a change from 1953 when I was a little baby.
Unidentified Female: Is your fantasy football record still perfect?
Oh, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought this up because I heard that there was a rumor that if I was gonna go nine and 0 that there was gonna be an investigation. That there was a very low probability that anybody could go nine and 0 in fantasy football so the good news is I'm eight and one. Lost my first game.
Unidentified Male: Who is your quarterback?
Unidentified Male: Thank you, sir.
Unidentified Male: Rogers?
No it’s Manning and Ryan Tannehill. That’s a very strong...
Unidentified Male: Eli or Peyton?
No it's Peyton.
Unidentified Male: All right, thanks everyone.
It wouldn’t be a problem if it was Eli.
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