Jack Heath: Governor, what would you do with the so-called sanctuary cities? In San Francisco we saw that God awful murder of that beautiful young mother by an illegal immigrant with a criminal record.
John Kasich: Well, I think they’re gonna be eliminated, Jack. I mean, this is a Republican and Democrat agreement there. In terms of immigration I mean, obviously the border needs to be secured, there needs to be an expanded guest worker program so people can move in and out and support their family but do it a legal way. With the 12 million we need to find out who they are. If they’re law-abiding, God fearing folks they’re gonna have to pay a penalty towards legalization and they’ll have to wait.
And, you know, I think it’s border, it’s a reasonable guest worker program, and the ones who are the 12 million if they violate the law they’re gonna have to be deported or put in prison. And I think at the same time we just we clearly need to make sure that we can protect who gets in and out of this country. And once we put something into effect like that anybody who comes in has got to be sent home. No one should be confused about it.
Jack Heath: Are you a fan of NAFTA? Has it been a net gain for the U.S.?
John Kasich: You know, my problem with NAFTA is real simple and that is if the American worker doesn’t get protected and here’s what I mean by that. I have a friend that runs a steel company. He says that that there’s foreign countries are dumping product in this country destroying people’s jobs. It takes us like two years to find out if they’re cheating. You can’t wait two years. Somebody’s family is being destroyed, their jobs are being destroyed, it’s pulling down communities.
So, Jack, we need an expedited process. I'm basically a free trader but I'm a fair trader and if it makes sense we’ll go forward with it. But we’ve got to make sure that we have a mechanism in place to make sure that when people cheat that we call them on it and we take action. You asked a question about the economy. If I could just speak on that for a second.
Jack Heath: Yeah.
John Kasich: You know, I was Chairman of the Budget Committee when we balanced the federal budget. I was one of the chief architects and our economy took off. You remember that in the late 90s and in the early 2000s we were growing. Why? We cut taxes, we balanced budgets, it made sense. I became Governor of Ohio. We were 8 billion in the hole, we cut taxes, we balanced budgets, we’re now 2 billion in the black. We’re up 350,000 jobs. Cutting, cutting taxes, balancing budgets is what works to drive economic growth.
, Jack Heath: Your answer on your own there got to a question that Tim in Hollis, New Hampshire has asked and that is balancing the budget. To paraphrase his question he and his wife have to live with a budget in the household.
John Kasich: Yeah.
Jack Heath: And they don’t understand why Washington is the antithesis and doesn’t live with a budget. What faith can you give to them that if you’re elected President you, the budget was balanced once before, but...
John Kasich: Yes.
Jack Heath: Now it hasn’t happened. How is Washington gonna live with the same fiscal discipline that households here in New Hampshire and apartments and condominiums have to live with every week between groceries and heating and kids and budget a mortgage? How do we get Washington to live within its means?
John Kasich: Well, Jack, first of all we need a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution which I have been pushing since I was a very young man. I have been traveling the country trying to get that done, number one. Number two, look, it’s about record and accomplishment. I was there, I spent 10 years of my life balancing the budget. Not because of numbers, but because of values, just the values when people have to balance their budgets so should the government. And in addition to that we don’t have the right to live high on the hog and put the bills on our children.
That is immoral. So I spent 10 years working at it. Frankly we got it balanced with Senator Domenici and the Clinton administration we got it done. And we can do it, we can do it again. It is politically challenging but frankly, the effort to get there is not that complicated. I’ve written only about 16 budgets in my lifetime including the one that took Ohio from 8 billion in the hole to 2 billion in the black. These things can be done, but they don’t necessarily have to be done by, by killing programs or chopping programs. You make them work better. So that couple if I'm President of the United States my number one priority is to get us on a roadmap to a balanced federal budget to create jobs in America.
Jack Heath: Thank you, Governor.
John Kasich: Thank you.